{"id":8781,"date":"2014-10-11T12:05:06","date_gmt":"2014-10-11T16:05:06","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.gayfriendschat.com\/socialblog\/new-clinton-papers-reveal-just-how-bad-the-discussions-leading-up-to-dadt-were-hint-gay-nazi\/"},"modified":"2014-10-11T12:05:06","modified_gmt":"2014-10-11T16:05:06","slug":"new-clinton-papers-reveal-just-how-bad-the-discussions-leading-up-to-dadt-were-hint-gay-nazi","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.gayfriendschat.com\/socialblog\/new-clinton-papers-reveal-just-how-bad-the-discussions-leading-up-to-dadt-were-hint-gay-nazi\/","title":{"rendered":"New Clinton Papers Reveal Just How Bad The Discussions Leading Up To DADT Were. (Hint: Gay = Nazi)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><b>New Clinton Papers Reveal Just How Bad The Discussions Leading Up To DADT Were. (Hint: Gay = Nazi)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/queerty-prodweb.s3.amazonaws.com\/wp\/docs\/2012\/06\/rotc_dadt-360x248.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/queerty-prodweb.s3.amazonaws.com\/wp\/docs\/2012\/06\/rotc_dadt-360x248.jpg\" alt=\"rotc_dadt-360x248\" width=\"360\" height=\"248\"><\/a>A new batch of White House documents from the Clinton presidency have just been released, and they confirm what was long suspected: the discussions that ultimately resulted in the Don&rsquo;t Ask, Don&rsquo;t Tell policy were<a href=\"http:\/\/www.politico.com\/story\/2014\/10\/clinton-documents-gays-in-the-military-111784.html\" target=\"_blank\">&nbsp;<\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/clintonlibrary.gov\/assets\/storage\/Research%20-%20Digital%20Library\/formerlywithheld\/batch7\/2006-0227-F-3.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">rife with homophobia.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>As his first act in the White House, Clinton promised to lift the military&rsquo;s ban on <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/chaturbate.com\/in\/?tour=R2Xc&#38;campaign=hl4zp&#38;track=gfcsb\">gay<\/a> service personnel. Instead, he ran into a military buzzsaw. In a meeting held in the White House just five days after Clinton moved in, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, led then by Gen. Colin Powell, rejected Clinton&rsquo;s decision out of hand.<\/p>\n<p>&ldquo;Homo[sexuality] is a problem for us,&rdquo; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.theatlantic.com\/politics\/archive\/2014\/10\/the-awkward-clinton-era-debate-over-dont-ask-dont-tell\/381374\/\" target=\"_blank\">Powell said, <\/a>according to the notes taken at the meeting. He also recited all the same bogus fears that led to DADT, including the old predator canard; the notes say Powell was&nbsp;&ldquo;concerned about forced association and immaturity of 18-year-old.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<p>The most offensive remarks came from Marine Commandant Carl Mundy, who 16 years later <a href=\"http:\/\/www.queerty.com\/military-vets-dont-repeal-dadt-20090401\" target=\"_blank\">was still urging the president (now Obama) not to repeal DADT<\/a>. &nbsp;According to the notes, Mundy said that the statement&nbsp;&ldquo;I&rsquo;m <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/chaturbate.com\/in\/?tour=R2Xc&#38;campaign=hl4zp&#38;track=gfcsb\">gay<\/a>&rdquo; was the &ldquo;same as I&rsquo;m KKK, Nazi, rapist.&rdquo; Coming out &ldquo;fractures teamwork&rdquo; and tells the world &ldquo;I commit [an] act Amer[ica] doesn&rsquo;t accept.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<p>Mundy wasn&rsquo;t moved by the experience of other nations either. &ldquo;It doesn&rsquo;t matter what the Dutch have done,&rdquo; he said. &ldquo;We&rsquo;re the best.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<p>Clinton was prone to stereotypes as well. &ldquo;People I would like to keep [in the military] wouldn&rsquo;t show up at a Queer Nation parade,&rdquo; the president said, referring to the activist group.<\/p>\n<p>The person who comes across best in the meeting is then-Vice President Al Gore. Gore challenges Powell directly when Powell insists that race is just one of several &ldquo;benign characteristics&rdquo; while &ldquo;<a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/www.flirt4free.com\/live\/girls\/couples\/?mp_code=akftr\">sex<\/a>[uality] is different.&rdquo;&nbsp;(Powell did come around, supporting the repeal of DADT in 2010 and the legalization of marriage equality in 2012.)<\/p>\n<p>Gore objected. &ldquo;Assuming you have a soldier born w\/ [a] predisp[osition] + patriotic&hellip;if that person sep[arates] due to status then that person in a way is discriminated against in a way similar to black[s.]&rdquo;<\/p>\n<p>After the meeting, Gore also told Clinton, Secretary of Defense Les Aspin and the other White House attendees that Mundy was &ldquo;borderline&rdquo; in his remarks, taking particularly offense at the Nazi comparison. No one else was as pointed in their criticism&ndash;at least not in the notes.<\/p>\n<p>Just one more reminder of how the first decade of the century might have been different if Gore had become President.<\/p>\n<div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\tphoto by: <\/p>\n<p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a href=\"http:\/\/flickr.com\/35577976@N02\/6214765816\" target=\"_blank\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tmattradickal<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n<div>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/queerty2?a=c1JV9QUsBKg:wqiRQejuFbo:yIl2AUoC8zA\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/queerty2?d=yIl2AUoC8zA\" border=\"0\"><\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/queerty2?a=c1JV9QUsBKg:wqiRQejuFbo:dnMXMwOfBR0\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/queerty2?d=dnMXMwOfBR0\" border=\"0\"><\/a>\n<\/div>\n<p>JohnGallagher<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/feedproxy.google.com\/~r\/queerty2\/~3\/c1JV9QUsBKg\/new-clinton-papers-reveal-just-how-bad-the-discussions-leading-up-to-dadt-were-hint-gay-nazi-20141011\" class=\"autohyperlink\">feedproxy.google.com\/~r\/queerty2\/~3\/c1JV9QUsBKg\/new-clinton-papers-reveal-just-how-bad-the-discussions-leading-up-to-dadt-were-hint-gay-nazi-20141011<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>New Clinton Papers Reveal Just How Bad The Discussions Leading Up To DADT Were. (Hint: Gay = Nazi) A new batch of White House documents from the Clinton presidency have just been released, and they confirm what was long suspected: the discussions that ultimately resulted in the Don&rsquo;t Ask, Don&rsquo;t Tell policy were&nbsp;rife with homophobia. &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.gayfriendschat.com\/socialblog\/new-clinton-papers-reveal-just-how-bad-the-discussions-leading-up-to-dadt-were-hint-gay-nazi\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">New Clinton Papers Reveal Just How Bad The Discussions Leading Up To DADT Were. 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