{"id":8751,"date":"2014-10-10T18:21:07","date_gmt":"2014-10-10T22:21:07","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.gayfriendschat.com\/socialblog\/cardinal-raymond-burke-takes-break-from-vatican-synod-to-say-ugly-things-about-gay-relationships\/"},"modified":"2014-10-10T18:21:07","modified_gmt":"2014-10-10T22:21:07","slug":"cardinal-raymond-burke-takes-break-from-vatican-synod-to-say-ugly-things-about-gay-relationships","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.gayfriendschat.com\/socialblog\/cardinal-raymond-burke-takes-break-from-vatican-synod-to-say-ugly-things-about-gay-relationships\/","title":{"rendered":"Cardinal Raymond Burke Takes Break From Vatican Synod To Say Ugly Things About Gay Relationships"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><b>Cardinal Raymond Burke Takes Break From Vatican Synod To Say Ugly Things About Gay Relationships<\/b><br \/>\nVatican court head Cardinal Raymond Burke took his opposition to <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/chaturbate.com\/in\/?tour=R2Xc&#38;campaign=hl4zp&#38;track=gfcsb\">gay<\/a> marriage to a new low in an <a href=\"https:\/\/www.lifesitenews.com\/news\/exclusive-cardinal-burke-responds-to-australian-couples-synod-presentation\" target=\"_hplink\">interview with LifeSite News<\/a> on Wednesday, calling same-<a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/www.flirt4free.com\/live\/girls\/couples\/?mp_code=akftr\">sex<\/a> relations &#8220;intrinsically disordered&#8221; and dangerous for children to be exposed to:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;We wouldn&rsquo;t, if it were another kind of relationship &mdash; something that was profoundly disordered and harmful &mdash; we wouldn&#8217;t expose our children to that relationship, to the direct experience of it. And neither should we do it in the context of a family member who not only suffers from same-<a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/www.flirt4free.com\/live\/girls\/couples\/?mp_code=akftr\">sex<\/a> attraction, but who has chosen to <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/chaturbate.com\/in\/?tour=grq0&#38;campaign=hl4zp&#38;track=gfcsb\">live<\/a> out that attraction, to act upon it, committing acts which are always and everywhere wrong, evil.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The cardinal is currently engaged in the Vatican&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/www.romereports.com\/pg158620-synod-on-the-family-top-5-points-discussed-en\" target=\"_hplink\">Synod on the Family<\/a>, at which a handful of <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/www.flirt4free.com\/live\/girls\/couples\/?mp_code=akftr\">couples<\/a> and families were invited to present questions and arguments to the assembled bishops as they assess the Catholic Church&#8217;s stance on various family-related issues.<\/p>\n<p>Ron and Mavis Pirola, former members of the Pontifical Council for the Family, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/2014\/10\/07\/catholic-synod-gay-couples_n_5945694.html\" target=\"_hplink\">delivered comments<\/a> to the synod on Monday encouraging parishes to welcome <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/chaturbate.com\/in\/?tour=R2Xc&#38;campaign=hl4zp&#38;track=gfcsb\">gay<\/a> <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/www.flirt4free.com\/live\/girls\/couples\/?mp_code=akftr\">couples<\/a>. The Pirolas shared the example of a <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/www.flirt4free.com\/live\/girls\/couples\/?mp_code=akftr\">couple<\/a> in their community, who struggled over whether to invite their son&#8217;s same-<a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/www.flirt4free.com\/live\/girls\/couples\/?mp_code=akftr\">sex<\/a> partner to a Christmas celebration, which they ultimately decided to do.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;They fully believed in the Church&rsquo;s teachings and they knew their grandchildren would see them welcome the son and his partner into the family,&#8221; the Pirolas said, adding, &#8220;What a model of evangelization for parishes as they respond to similar situations in their neighborhood!&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Cardinal Burke did not agree, however, and told LifeSite:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;If homosexual relations are intrinsically disordered, which indeed they are &mdash; reason teaches us that and also our faith &mdash; then, what would it mean to grandchildren to have present at a family gathering a family member who is living in a disordered relationship with another person?&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Burke, along with German Cardinal Gerhard Mueller and three other conservative cardinals, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/2014\/09\/18\/catholic-bishops-divorce_n_5837916.html\" target=\"_hplink\">released a book<\/a> just days before the synod convened entitled &#8220;Remaining in the Truth of Christ: Marriage and Communion in the Catholic Church.&#8221; The book challenged apparent moves by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dailyherald.com\/article\/20141010\/news\/141019865\/\" target=\"_hplink\">more moderate Catholic voices<\/a> to reassess church teachings on <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/chaturbate.com\/in\/?tour=R2Xc&#38;campaign=hl4zp&#38;track=gfcsb\">gay<\/a> marriage, divorce and other key family-related topics.<\/p>\n<p>In February Burke also <a href=\"http:\/\/www.religionnews.com\/2014\/02\/21\/u-s-cardinal-raymond-burke-pope-francis-opposes-abortion-gay-marriage\/\" target=\"_hplink\">warned against the &#8220;false praise&#8221;<\/a> of those who read too much into Pope Francis&#8217; iconic words, &#8220;Who am I to judge?&#8221;, when it comes to the church&#8217;s stance on <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/chaturbate.com\/in\/?tour=R2Xc&#38;campaign=hl4zp&#38;track=gfcsb\">gay<\/a> relationships.<\/p>\n<p>In response to Burke&#8217;s declaration that <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/chaturbate.com\/in\/?tour=R2Xc&#38;campaign=hl4zp&#38;track=gfcsb\">gay<\/a> relationships are &#8220;intrinsically disordered,&#8221; National Catholic Reporters&#8217; Michael Sean Winters <a href=\"http:\/\/ncronline.org\/blogs\/distinctly-catholic\/card-burke-intrinsically-disordered\" target=\"_hplink\">called the cardinal<\/a> &#8220;tone deaf&#8221; and said such statements &#8220;make the Church look foolish and mean-spirited.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;This <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/chaturbate.com\/in\/?tour=R2Xc&#38;campaign=hl4zp&#38;track=gfcsb\">man<\/a>&#8217;s inability to speak with even a whiff of human compassion is intrinsically disordered if you ask me,&#8221; Winters said.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Read more from <a href=\"http:\/\/www.religionnews.com\/2014\/10\/10\/vatican-debate-gays-provokes-strong-reaction-corners\/\" target=\"_hplink\">RNS<\/a>:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>VATICAN CITY (RNS) From questions of welcoming a <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/chaturbate.com\/in\/?tour=R2Xc&#38;campaign=hl4zp&#38;track=gfcsb\">gay<\/a> son home for Christmas to denying the sacraments for the children of <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/chaturbate.com\/in\/?tour=R2Xc&#38;campaign=hl4zp&#38;track=gfcsb\">gay<\/a> and <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/www.flirt4free.com\/live\/girls\/?mp_code=akftr\">lesbian<\/a> parents, an ongoing debate on the Catholic Church&rsquo;s approach to homosexuality has raised the hopes of some LGBT advocates and provoked the ire of the church&rsquo;s right wing.<\/p>\n<p>At the two-week Synod on the Family convened by Pope Francis here, the issue of homosexuality is competing for air time with similar questions of denying Communion to divorced and remarried Catholics or how to respond to <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/www.flirt4free.com\/live\/girls\/couples\/?mp_code=akftr\">couples<\/a> that <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/chaturbate.com\/in\/?tour=grq0&#38;campaign=hl4zp&#38;track=gfcsb\">live<\/a> together outside of marriage.<\/p>\n<p>But with a rapidly shifting legal landscape, and a pope who famously asked &ldquo;Who am I to judge?&rdquo;, the debate over homosexuality is eliciting personal and charged reactions from all corners of the church.<\/p>\n<p>The controversial debate was unwittingly fired up by Australians Ron and Mavis Pirola, the parents of four and delegates to the church family summit.<\/p>\n<p>The Sydney <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/www.flirt4free.com\/live\/girls\/couples\/?mp_code=akftr\">couple<\/a> told nearly 200 bishops about friends who had invited their <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/chaturbate.com\/in\/?tour=R2Xc&#38;campaign=hl4zp&#38;track=gfcsb\">gay<\/a> son and his partner home for Christmas.<\/p>\n<p>&ldquo;They fully believed in the church&rsquo;s teachings and they knew their grandchildren would see them welcome the son and his partner into the family,&rdquo; the <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/www.flirt4free.com\/live\/girls\/couples\/?mp_code=akftr\">couple<\/a> told those assembled in the Vatican&rsquo;s Paul VI hall. &ldquo;Their response could be summed up in three words: &lsquo;He&rsquo;s our son.&rsquo;&rdquo;<\/p>\n<p>American hard-liner Cardinal Raymond Burke shot back on Thursday (Oct. 9) that children should be protected from &ldquo;exposure&rdquo; to <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/chaturbate.com\/in\/?tour=R2Xc&#38;campaign=hl4zp&#38;track=gfcsb\">gay<\/a> relationships, which he rejected as &ldquo;evil.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<p>&ldquo;If it were another kind of relationship &mdash; something that was profoundly disordered and harmful &mdash; we wouldn&rsquo;t expose our children to that relationship, to the direct experience of it,&rdquo; Burke, who oversees the Vatican court system, told LifeSiteNews.<\/p>\n<p>&ldquo;And neither should we do it in the context of a family member who not only suffers from same-<a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/www.flirt4free.com\/live\/girls\/couples\/?mp_code=akftr\">sex<\/a> attraction, but who has chosen to <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/chaturbate.com\/in\/?tour=grq0&#38;campaign=hl4zp&#38;track=gfcsb\">live<\/a> out that attraction, to act upon it, committing acts which are always and everywhere wrong, evil.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<p>But that&rsquo;s exactly the approach that sends <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/chaturbate.com\/in\/?tour=R2Xc&#38;campaign=hl4zp&#38;track=gfcsb\">gay<\/a> and <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/www.flirt4free.com\/live\/girls\/?mp_code=akftr\">lesbian<\/a> Catholics &mdash; and members of their extended families &mdash; running away from the church, said Marianne Duddy-Burke, executive director of the largest Catholic <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/chaturbate.com\/in\/?tour=R2Xc&#38;campaign=hl4zp&#38;track=gfcsb\">gay<\/a> and <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/www.flirt4free.com\/live\/girls\/?mp_code=akftr\">lesbian<\/a> rights group, DignityUSA.<\/p>\n<p>&ldquo;It is clear this &lsquo;love the sinner&rsquo; but &lsquo;hate the sin&rsquo; approach does not work,&rdquo; she said from Boston. &ldquo;It is inappropriate in dealing with <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/chaturbate.com\/in\/?tour=R2Xc&#38;campaign=hl4zp&#38;track=gfcsb\">gay<\/a> people.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<p>In a Vatican briefing Friday, church leaders said the bishops and other delegates were considering the children who bear the &ldquo;heavy burdens&rdquo; caused by divorce or other &ldquo;irregular situations&rdquo; &mdash; code words for nontraditional families headed by unmarried parents, or <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/chaturbate.com\/in\/?tour=R2Xc&#38;campaign=hl4zp&#38;track=gfcsb\">gay<\/a> and <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/www.flirt4free.com\/live\/girls\/?mp_code=akftr\">lesbian<\/a> parents.<\/p>\n<p>The synod has also been discussing ways of offering the sacraments to the children of <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/chaturbate.com\/in\/?tour=R2Xc&#38;campaign=hl4zp&#38;track=gfcsb\">gay<\/a> <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/www.flirt4free.com\/live\/girls\/couples\/?mp_code=akftr\">couples<\/a>, something Duddy-Burke said has been used as a &ldquo;political weapon.&rdquo; Though not widespread, some <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/chaturbate.com\/in\/?tour=R2Xc&#38;campaign=hl4zp&#38;track=gfcsb\">gay<\/a> Catholics have reported obstacles in seeking baptism for their children, or enrolling them in Catholic schools.<\/p>\n<p>&ldquo;It is absolutely wrong for the church to use its sacraments as a political weapon,&rdquo; she said. &ldquo;It is happening with baptisms, weddings and funerals. I have two kids. Our kids should be full members of the church like their parents.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<p>Francis has said the church must be more compassionate toward the <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/chaturbate.com\/in\/?tour=R2Xc&#38;campaign=hl4zp&#38;track=gfcsb\">gay<\/a> community, although he has never argued for changing church teaching that homosexuality is &ldquo;objectively disordered&rdquo; or suddenly moved to allow <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/chaturbate.com\/in\/?tour=R2Xc&#38;campaign=hl4zp&#38;track=gfcsb\">gay<\/a> marriage.<\/p>\n<p>Nonetheless, the change in tone that Francis has called for &mdash; and which seems to be finding support at the synod &mdash; has given LGBT advocates reason for hope.<\/p>\n<p>&ldquo;People are angry that the bishops take the side of discrimination rather than equality,&rdquo; said Francis DeBernardo, executive director of Maryland-based New Ways Ministry, a <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/chaturbate.com\/in\/?tour=R2Xc&#38;campaign=hl4zp&#38;track=gfcsb\">gay<\/a> Catholic group that has long been at odds with the American hierarchy.<\/p>\n<p>&ldquo;(But) they think Francis sees them as brothers and sisters. They don&rsquo;t feel they are outsiders anymore. Francis has changed the language, and in this synod we are seeing bishops calling for change in pastoral practice.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<p>The Rev. James Martin, a Jesuit priest at America magazine and author of &ldquo;Jesus: A Pilgrimage,&rdquo; said he, too, is encouraged.<\/p>\n<p>&ldquo;It is a huge step forward that the synod is hearing from people speaking warmly about LGBT people. And it&rsquo;s a big step that many bishops now advocate a more pastoral stance to the community,&rdquo; he said from New York. &ldquo;Even better would be if the bishops heard from an LGBT person sharing his or her own experiences of being Catholic.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/2014\/10\/10\/raymond-burke-gay-relationships_n_5967198.html?utm_hp_ref=gay-voices&#038;ir=Gay+Voices\" class=\"autohyperlink\">www.huffingtonpost.com\/2014\/10\/10\/raymond-burke-gay-relationships_n_5967198.html?utm_hp_ref=gay-voices&#038;ir=Gay+Voices<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Cardinal Raymond Burke Takes Break From Vatican Synod To Say Ugly Things About Gay Relationships Vatican court head Cardinal Raymond Burke took his opposition to <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/chaturbate.com\/in\/?tour=R2Xc&#38;campaign=hl4zp&#38;track=gfcsb\">gay<\/a> marriage to a new low in an interview with LifeSite News on Wednesday, calling same-<a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/www.flirt4free.com\/live\/girls\/couples\/?mp_code=akftr\">sex<\/a> relations &#8220;intrinsically disordered&#8221; and dangerous for children to be exposed to: &#8220;We wouldn&rsquo;t, if &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.gayfriendschat.com\/socialblog\/cardinal-raymond-burke-takes-break-from-vatican-synod-to-say-ugly-things-about-gay-relationships\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Cardinal Raymond Burke Takes Break From Vatican Synod To Say Ugly Things About Gay Relationships<\/span> <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2466,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-8751","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-misc"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.2 - 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