{"id":45946,"date":"2016-10-11T22:21:35","date_gmt":"2016-10-12T02:21:35","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.gayfriendschat.com\/socialblog\/john-weir-on-the-controlling-effect-of-trumps-locker-room-talk\/"},"modified":"2016-10-11T22:21:35","modified_gmt":"2016-10-12T02:21:35","slug":"john-weir-on-the-controlling-effect-of-trumps-locker-room-talk","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.gayfriendschat.com\/socialblog\/john-weir-on-the-controlling-effect-of-trumps-locker-room-talk\/","title":{"rendered":"John Weir on the Controlling Effect of Trump\u2019s \u2018Locker Room Talk\u2019"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><b>John Weir on the Controlling Effect of Trump\u2019s \u2018Locker Room Talk\u2019<\/b><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.towleroad.com\/2016\/10\/wax-justin-bieber\/bush-6\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-329387\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.towleroad.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/bush.jpeg?resize=600%2C634\" alt=\"bush locker room talk\" srcset=\"http:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.towleroad.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/bush.jpeg?w=600 600w, http:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.towleroad.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/bush.jpeg?resize=284%2C300 284w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Since the leak of the <em>Access Hollywood<\/em> <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/chaturbate.com\/in\/?tour=grq0&#38;campaign=hl4zp&#38;track=gfcsb\">video<\/a> in which&nbsp;Donald Trump brags about sexual assault, Trump&nbsp;has insisted it was&nbsp;benign&nbsp;&ldquo;locker room talk&rdquo; he was having with Billy Bush. But our friend, author John Weir, posted to his Facebook page yesterday about how this kind of talk &ldquo;aimed most directly and traumatically at <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/www.flirt4free.com\/live\/girls\/?mp_code=akftr\">women<\/a>, is also a strategy for monitoring and intimidating <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/chaturbate.com\/in\/?tour=R2Xc&#38;campaign=hl4zp&#38;track=gfcsb\">men<\/a>.&rdquo; Weir is the award-winning author of <em>The Irreversible Decline of Eddie Socket<\/em> and <em>What I Did Wrong<\/em> and has let us republish the post here.<\/p>\n<p>Adolescent locker room talk! The talk I remember from high school locker rooms was, &ldquo;Why are you such a fag?&rdquo;<\/p>\n<p>The icky back-and-forth between Bush &amp; Trump was, firstly, not in a locker room but a tour bus hired by *Access Hollywood* for the 2005 month-long &ldquo;Access Across America&rdquo; tour; and Trump was on the bus because he was headed to the Burbank Warners studio to do a guest shot on *Days of Our Lives*, a stunt promo for his own show, *The Apprentice*.<\/p>\n<p>He and Billy Bush (co-anchor of *AH*) were miked and surrounded by TV tekkies and grips and handlers, headed for a staged meet-&amp;-greet with Arianne Zucker, *Days of Our Lives* cast member.<\/p>\n<div><a href=\"http:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.towleroad.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/John-Weir.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.towleroad.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/John-Weir.jpg?resize=241%2C321\" alt=\"Locker Room Talk\" srcset=\"http:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.towleroad.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/John-Weir.jpg?w=720 720w, http:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.towleroad.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/John-Weir.jpg?resize=225%2C300 225w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 241px) 100vw, 241px\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>John Weir<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>They were miked. Bush was pumping up Trump for a performance. The performance was: shoot footage of two <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/chaturbate.com\/in\/?tour=R2Xc&#38;campaign=hl4zp&#38;track=gfcsb\">guys<\/a> being sexually icky and &ldquo;suggestive&rdquo; to a TV actress.<\/p>\n<p>So it was not just an instance of rape culture, it was a staging of that instance, rape culture choreographed and recorded for the delectation of the audience at home. And saved for posterity.<\/p>\n<p>Everyone involved knew the conversation was being recorded and potentially aired on TV. That was the point of the conversation.<\/p>\n<p>The tape has two acts: audio of the unseen <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/chaturbate.com\/in\/?tour=R2Xc&#38;campaign=hl4zp&#38;track=gfcsb\">guys<\/a> over a visual of the bus. Then the bus pulls up, a bunch of <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/chaturbate.com\/in\/?tour=R2Xc&#38;campaign=hl4zp&#38;track=gfcsb\">guys<\/a> get out, Trump emerges, and the <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/chaturbate.com\/in\/?tour=grq0&#38;campaign=hl4zp&#38;track=gfcsb\">video<\/a> and audio merge in the staged scene of Bush directing &ndash; ordering? &ndash; Zucker to hug Trump, etc.<\/p>\n<p>So you have a lot of white <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/chaturbate.com\/in\/?tour=R2Xc&#38;campaign=hl4zp&#38;track=gfcsb\">guys<\/a> sitting around on a tour bus talking, reminiscing about their past sexual aggressions, planning their upcoming sexual aggression; and then they get off the bus and there is footage of that aggression.<\/p>\n<p>It was not as violent as gang rape, but it stuck to standard scenarios of how gang rape is represented in innumerable movies and novels and TV shows produced and written and directed by <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/chaturbate.com\/in\/?tour=R2Xc&#38;campaign=hl4zp&#38;track=gfcsb\">men<\/a>; and it was sexual harassment.<\/p>\n<p>Watching it &ndash; only once &ndash; I thought about how, since I hit puberty (I&rsquo;m 57 years old), I&rsquo;ve repeatedly been in social situations &ndash; not locker rooms! *living* rooms &ndash; where one <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/chaturbate.com\/in\/?tour=R2Xc&#38;campaign=hl4zp&#38;track=gfcsb\">man<\/a>, or a group of <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/chaturbate.com\/in\/?tour=R2Xc&#38;campaign=hl4zp&#38;track=gfcsb\">men<\/a>, whom I have just met, whom I am &ldquo;getting to know,&rdquo; has\/have said stuff about <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/www.flirt4free.com\/live\/girls\/?mp_code=akftr\">women<\/a> not so different from what Trump said to Bush.<\/p>\n<p>It is, indeed, inevitable, that conversation: I walk into a room of <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/chaturbate.com\/in\/?tour=R2Xc&#38;campaign=hl4zp&#38;track=gfcsb\">men<\/a> I don&rsquo;t know, and sooner or later, one of them turns to me and makes a sexual comment about a <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/www.flirt4free.com\/live\/girls\/?mp_code=akftr\">woman<\/a> or all <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/www.flirt4free.com\/live\/girls\/?mp_code=akftr\">women<\/a>. Not like, &ldquo;She&rsquo;s hot!&rdquo; But more like Trump saying, &ldquo;I moved on her like a bitch.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<p>I&rsquo;m a <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/chaturbate.com\/in\/?tour=R2Xc&#38;campaign=hl4zp&#38;track=gfcsb\">gay<\/a> <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/chaturbate.com\/in\/?tour=R2Xc&#38;campaign=hl4zp&#38;track=gfcsb\">guy<\/a>, and I&rsquo;m talking here &ndash; I assume! &ndash; about straight <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/chaturbate.com\/in\/?tour=R2Xc&#38;campaign=hl4zp&#38;track=gfcsb\">men<\/a>. Straight <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/chaturbate.com\/in\/?tour=R2Xc&#38;campaign=hl4zp&#38;track=gfcsb\">guys<\/a> are constantly policing each other&rsquo;s heterosexuality, even still, and they want to know, as quickly as possible, whether or not the new <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/chaturbate.com\/in\/?tour=R2Xc&#38;campaign=hl4zp&#38;track=gfcsb\">guy<\/a> is a fag.<\/p>\n<p>They also want to assure each other, and you, that they are not fags.<\/p>\n<p>Sometimes, they&rsquo;re hoping you *are* a fag, and later, when the two of you are alone, they&rsquo;ll let you know they&rsquo;re, wink wink, &ldquo;open to that.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<p>It sounds like I&rsquo;m talking about the 1950s, but this has happened to me throughout my <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/www.flirt4free.com\/live\/girls\/couples\/?mp_code=akftr\">teenage<\/a> and adult life and even recently, in 2016, when I&rsquo;m pushing 60, and not just openly <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/chaturbate.com\/in\/?tour=R2Xc&#38;campaign=hl4zp&#38;track=gfcsb\">gay<\/a>, but openly GAY.<\/p>\n<p>Maybe <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/chaturbate.com\/in\/?tour=R2Xc&#38;campaign=hl4zp&#38;track=gfcsb\">guys<\/a> these days are more likely to go home and google you. Not the <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/chaturbate.com\/in\/?tour=R2Xc&#38;campaign=hl4zp&#38;track=gfcsb\">guys<\/a> I&rsquo;ve met, though.<\/p>\n<p>Talking sexually aggressive trash about <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/www.flirt4free.com\/live\/girls\/?mp_code=akftr\">women<\/a> is how straight <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/chaturbate.com\/in\/?tour=R2Xc&#38;campaign=hl4zp&#38;track=gfcsb\">men<\/a> warn you not to be <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/chaturbate.com\/in\/?tour=R2Xc&#38;campaign=hl4zp&#38;track=gfcsb\">gay<\/a>. It&rsquo;s one of the reasons they talk to each other about sexually harassing <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/www.flirt4free.com\/live\/girls\/?mp_code=akftr\">women<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>I have responded differently to this conversation at different times in my life. Sometimes, it&rsquo;s clear to me that I&rsquo;m not safe being <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/chaturbate.com\/in\/?tour=R2Xc&#38;campaign=hl4zp&#38;track=gfcsb\">gay<\/a> around these <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/chaturbate.com\/in\/?tour=R2Xc&#38;campaign=hl4zp&#38;track=gfcsb\">guys<\/a>, and I say nothing. Sometimes I know they&rsquo;re not bashers, and I try to mock them or joke them out of their rapey deplorability. Sometimes they *want* me to say I&rsquo;m <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/chaturbate.com\/in\/?tour=R2Xc&#38;campaign=hl4zp&#38;track=gfcsb\">gay<\/a>, so they can ask me all the standard questions: How did you know? Are you a pitcher or a catcher? What if I told you how good it feels to have your <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/chaturbate.com\/in\/?tour=R2Xc&#38;campaign=hl4zp&#38;track=gfcsb\">dick<\/a> in there? Can you pass that up?<\/p>\n<p>I&rsquo;m quoting.<\/p>\n<p>Mostly, I feel deeply unsafe around these conversations, and I keep my mouth shut, or mutter something unintelligible, or shrug, or walk away, if that&rsquo;s possible.<\/p>\n<p>I&rsquo;m not talking about &ldquo;out-of-work white <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/chaturbate.com\/in\/?tour=R2Xc&#38;campaign=hl4zp&#38;track=gfcsb\">guys<\/a> who have lost everything,&rdquo; and are presumably voting for Trump. I&rsquo;m talking about <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/www.flirt4free.com\/live\/girls\/couples\/?mp_code=akftr\">teenage<\/a> and adult <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/chaturbate.com\/in\/?tour=R2Xc&#38;campaign=hl4zp&#38;track=gfcsb\">men<\/a> age 12 to 80, across classes and races and regions, over the past 45 years.<\/p>\n<p>So Trump&rsquo;s abusive masculinity, aimed most directly and traumatically at <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/www.flirt4free.com\/live\/girls\/?mp_code=akftr\">women<\/a>, is also a strategy for monitoring and intimidating <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/chaturbate.com\/in\/?tour=R2Xc&#38;campaign=hl4zp&#38;track=gfcsb\">men<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>And <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/chaturbate.com\/in\/?tour=R2Xc&#38;campaign=hl4zp&#38;track=gfcsb\">men<\/a> who say they&rsquo;ve never heard any <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/chaturbate.com\/in\/?tour=R2Xc&#38;campaign=hl4zp&#38;track=gfcsb\">men<\/a> talk like that, or that it was just, you know, &ldquo;adolescent play,&rdquo; are maybe the same <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/chaturbate.com\/in\/?tour=R2Xc&#38;campaign=hl4zp&#38;track=gfcsb\">guys<\/a> who don&rsquo;t remember, would deny, bashing fags and dykes &ndash; physically, verbally &ndash; in high school.<\/p>\n<p>John Weir is the author of two novels, <em>What I Did Wrong<\/em> and <em>The Irreversible Decline of Eddie Socket<\/em>. This was initially published on his <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/john.weir.7796420\/posts\/10155330465752519\">Facebook page<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>From time to time Towleroad re-publishes great posts from social media that have resonance for our readership. If you see something that we should consider bringing to our audience of 1.5 million monthly,&nbsp;drop us a note with links either to our contact form at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.towleroad.com\/contact\" class=\"autohyperlink\">www.towleroad.com\/contact<\/a> or through our tips at <a href=\"http:\/\/towleroad.com\" class=\"autohyperlink\">towleroad.com<\/a> email.<\/p>\n<p>The post <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/www.towleroad.com\/2016\/10\/locker-room-talk\/\">John Weir on the Controlling Effect of Trump&rsquo;s &lsquo;Locker Room Talk&rsquo;<\/a> appeared first on <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/www.towleroad.com\/\">Towleroad<\/a>.<\/p>\n<div>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.towleroad.com\/~ff\/towleroad\/feed?a=Cox2jxYgxLU:tA-ijWnEbyg:qj6IDK7rITs\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/towleroad\/feed?d=qj6IDK7rITs\" border=\"0\"><\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.towleroad.com\/~ff\/towleroad\/feed?a=Cox2jxYgxLU:tA-ijWnEbyg:I9og5sOYxJI\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/towleroad\/feed?d=I9og5sOYxJI\" border=\"0\"><\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.towleroad.com\/~ff\/towleroad\/feed?a=Cox2jxYgxLU:tA-ijWnEbyg:yIl2AUoC8zA\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/towleroad\/feed?d=yIl2AUoC8zA\" border=\"0\"><\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.towleroad.com\/~ff\/towleroad\/feed?a=Cox2jxYgxLU:tA-ijWnEbyg:gIN9vFwOqvQ\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/towleroad\/feed?i=Cox2jxYgxLU:tA-ijWnEbyg:gIN9vFwOqvQ\" border=\"0\"><\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.towleroad.com\/~ff\/towleroad\/feed?a=Cox2jxYgxLU:tA-ijWnEbyg:cGdyc7Q-1BI\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/towleroad\/feed?d=cGdyc7Q-1BI\" border=\"0\"><\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.towleroad.com\/~ff\/towleroad\/feed?a=Cox2jxYgxLU:tA-ijWnEbyg:YwkR-u9nhCs\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/towleroad\/feed?d=YwkR-u9nhCs\" border=\"0\"><\/a>\n<\/div>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~r\/towleroad\/feed\/~4\/Cox2jxYgxLU\" height=\"1\" width=\"1\" alt=\"\"><br \/>\n<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"4NVJxOj2D0\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.towleroad.com\/2016\/10\/locker-room-talk\/\">John Weir on the Controlling Effect of Trump&#8217;s &#8216;Locker Room Talk&#8217;<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; clip: rect(1px, 1px, 1px, 1px);\" title=\"&#8220;John Weir on the Controlling Effect of Trump&#8217;s &#8216;Locker Room Talk&#8217;&#8221; &#8212; Towleroad Gay News\" src=\"https:\/\/www.towleroad.com\/2016\/10\/locker-room-talk\/embed\/#?secret=rlYBZe7WmU#?secret=4NVJxOj2D0\" data-secret=\"4NVJxOj2D0\" width=\"474\" height=\"267\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>John Weir on the Controlling Effect of Trump\u2019s \u2018Locker Room Talk\u2019 Since the leak of the Access Hollywood <a title=\"\" class=\"aalmanual\" target=\"_blank\"   href=\"https:\/\/chaturbate.com\/in\/?tour=grq0&#38;campaign=hl4zp&#38;track=gfcsb\">video<\/a> in which&nbsp;Donald Trump brags about sexual assault, Trump&nbsp;has insisted it was&nbsp;benign&nbsp;&ldquo;locker room talk&rdquo; he was having with Billy Bush. 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